[2], The earliest dated new manufacture, second pattern regulation police holster is 1929. On the rear cover the books contents are further described as: official guide for Prussian police officers. A complete discussion of The police officer is therefore faced with the varied expenses. 2. by Poot 06 May 2016, 17:38, Post Opinion 3: I strongly believe what you have is a Heeres-Zeugamt produced holster. LUGER POLICE P-08 MAGAZINE. The balance of the change involved adding a cover flap brass stud to effect closure, utilizing the original LP.08 holster body up-strap and it is certain in this first conversion that the holster rear leather shoulder strap stock block was retained. 3 days Left DWM MODEL 1914 ARTILLERY LUGER SEMI-AUTO PISTOL. of "P". Bavarian Police Defense Force (Polizeiwehr Bayern), Since these cut back LP08 holsters, at least in the Weimar era, had no provision for a spare magazine, the police officer carries a twin magazine pouch on his belt. for WWII , Hitler ordered the production of Lugers. Military Control Commission), was established to enforce the provisions of The first stamp of WwMg/41 may signify Waffenwerk Magdeburg. SOLD - 1921 DWM Luger - Police Rework $1,950.00 Availability: Out of stock SKU 89661 - 15966 Next/Previous Description 6/4/21 - This is a nice example of a rare 1921-dated DWM Luger. GERMAN POLICE LUGER P08 MAGAZINE DOVE MARKINGS. Polizei-Verwaltung Halle A/S.=Police Administration Halle A/S. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.H. Die neue Reichs= und die preusishe Bersassung haben bereits einige wichtige Orgnzungen ersahren: weitere Gestze sind in nachster Zeit zu erwarten. Poulin 2015 Auction, Bahnschutz holster, front view only, In the example 2 conversion, to a complete P.08 style holster, the rear, horizontal leather stock block was removed and twin belt loops were added, curiously, one wider than the other, which may be a later repair replacement. Feedback. German Army. ERFURT LUGER 1920/1917 POLICE REWORK - C40363 9mm; 96% blue, 40% straw, very good bore, good grips, 4'' barrel, This is a Police reworked pistol. 1935 and 1936 are the only known manufacturing dates for the TP or Technische Polizeischule property marked holsters. links[0]='http://www.GermanMilitaria.com'; 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced, both with the intent of identifying the markings. Thread Tools: Display Modes Additionally, by restricting the insertion of the cleaning rod end, with affixed Reinigungsgdocht[6] or cleaning wick flush to the chamber face, prevents it from becoming detached, which could happen with a longer cleaning rod extending beyond the barrel/receiver chamber face. 05-24-2021 12:04 AM by Neil Young. After the war 2-300 HIPO-men were sentenced to death for brutality, killings and torture of their own countrymen. From the same time period is this beautiful DWM Swiss contract Model 1906 Luger sold on the commercial market in 1920s, and includes a vintage shooting medal from the Moudon, a historic town in the canton of Vaud in Switzerland. The holster conversion was similar to the below example 2 except that it is stamped on the rear with the original holstered police Luger serial number 5008, and fortunately the holster still retains the matching 5008 serial number stamped loading tool. Bavarian State Police (Landespolizei), 1930. Nuernberg (Nuremberg procurement office), Flugueberwachung Bayern-Sued (South Bavarian avaiation supervision), Flugueberwachung Bayern-Nord (North Bavarian aviation supervision), Nachrichtentechniche Abteilung (communications section), Ausbildungsstaffel der Nachr. Only two are identified in publications and only partial pictures. Below, a muzzle protector is shown attached to a Mauser Oberndorf Luger, s.n. Pictured is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation 1 muzzle protector. Caliber 7.65mm - 4.75" barrel. by Poot 08 May 2016, 08:12, Post Please report any errors to me. Password: Register: All Albums: FAQ: Calendar: Mark Forums Read: View First Unread Thread Tools: Display Modes: 06-24-2002, 11:58 PM . Normally, as stated above, these cut-back artillery holsters utilized a toe plug, in this case the subject holster is about of an inch longer, allowing the leather smith enough materiel to fold over the toe opening, mostly conforming to the 1929 and later police holsters. It does however have a small chip on the left pistol grip above the magazine release button and the magazine does not match (blue body, aluminum base "+" spare with "2" and w suffix) The dealer wants $1,200 firm but not sure if that is fair price. 1014 stamping is believed to be for Schutzpolizei Erfurt, however, the I. of S.E.I. Collectors tend to err toward a variation 2 style ERMA made and marked muzzle protector that is, interestingly a different mechanical design than the above, variation 1 spring tension muzzle protector that attaches to the barrel with a one-step process by sliding, then rotating clockwise, over the barrel sight band/blade assembly, then released in detent, held in place by spring tension. Mfg Part Number. -techn. May the second application of every police officer continue to be a good leader in the difficult area of police action. Pictured is one such P08 police grip strap example, compared against variation 1 muzzle protector 2866, where no additional marks were added. Only one other example has ever been documented. Additionally, based on The die application was quite sloppy in some areas, an example being the loading tool pouch located inside the cover flap where the black die was applied with the cover flap closed. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 5 ----------------------------------------------------------. 33. Hard to find historic variation. The word itself 'HIPO' is a shortening in German of HIlfs-POlizei (i.e. Most observed are reworks with double date or blank chambers of DWM and ERFURT.(shown below) The eagle proof differs from recognized Police Luger eagle stamped holsters, which are usually not associated with E/WaA control numbers. Pictured is a WW1 P08 army holster modified to a Police holster in the 1920s or possibly early 1930s by removing the angled buckle and strap closure, converting to the police type closure by adding a pull-up strap to the holster body and adding a steel stud[4] and leather keeper strip to the cover flap. Versailles, and after repeated demands by the IMKK, on June 29, 1921, the It worked through various Der Polizeibeamte seiht sich daher den vielseitigen Uusgaben gegenberstehen. These HZA markings, excluding the WaAJL16 stampings which, as Costanzo states was specifically used by police forces guarding warehouses operated by the Heerszeugment. The WaA107 stamp is not mentioned or listed in Luger Holsters and Accessories, 1992 by E. Bender and not much is known of the WaA107 army inspection stamp as it has been found on only four holsters to date, listed below, and a 1930s Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector: Pictured is another variation 1 muzzle protector in the collection stamped 2866 with an additional, unidentified police marking that has been partially obscured and covered with X marks and a small, unidentified police inspection stamp. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 3 ----------------------------------------------------------. 2: 1,223: DWM unit marked. 3. var ad=new Array() Still 1993 on page 174, Fig. These considerations must form the basis for the training of the police officer. This is one heck of an obscure way to do it! 1703 marked muzzle protector attached to a P.08 barrel, which is part of a 4mm sub caliber training assembly, which could also be used as a stand-alone muzzle protector in conjunction with the new police cleaning rod with brass stopper. unmarked commercial Police style holsters have been identified. included provisions for two spare magazines, cleaning rod, box of period ammunition and a loading tool. 13005 or Schutzpolizei Berlin property number stamping located on the holster rear, to the right of the belt loops, with the Hannover and Berlin districts being 283 kilometers apart. I figured out the other markings from earlier posts. The kit is decidedly different in construction and contents from the official Reinigungsgert 34 & R.G.34 fr Kal. Made in Germany and completely lead free. The holster was obtained with a cleaning rod, marked on a milled flat section of the shaft Sunburst S (1932-36), specifically made to be used with police Lugers. officially discontinued. 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced. Discussions on the small arms used by the Axis forces. 45a and in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols a.k.a. Article modified: Sunday, 7 July 2019. Original stitching intact. Remnants of the original artillery holster body up-strap attachment are visible; the cover flap keeper strap and the brass stud were removed and the hole was plugged in the cover flap and a belt buckle/strap closure, as stated above was added. were issued to. Pictured is an identical holster in the collection and additionally pictured with a 1908/13 commercial/military/police, no chamber date Luger, serial number 69859 and a separate view of 69859 serialized in the hidden commercial style. by the German authorities from the Imperial and Weimar eras, and is an This book contains English translations of the actual regulations issued The unusual marking is located between the belt loops. 4. This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjernes Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. Based on the wooden box style of the two examples, and the identical text font size and styles, that there are more of these cleaning kits with identical contents and that they are all, most likely made by the same German manufacturer. From the Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess collection. A round buckle for Officers ranks and a box buckle for NCOs ranks utilizing the Freistaat Preuen eagle and are believed to have been introduced in 1921 and were utilized until 1936. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. Note, these two WaAJL16 holsters are in private collections and are not pictured or discussed in any prior Luger publications, except on Luger forum sites with the last mention of the WaAJL16 stampings being discussed in 2008. Is wird daher fr alle Polizeibeamten, die mit dem Inhalt des Buches vertraut sind, ein leichtes sein, sich auch in der vorliegenden Reubearbeitung ohne Schwierigteit zurechtzusinden. ad[8]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/JRBMbanner.jpg'; German: German Mfg. The American, British and French allies in concert with Germany restructured the western Berlin Police to reflect the western democracies as illustrated by the then leader of the free world; another picture. 4 days Left 18th Century Wooden Box with Brass Handle. similar restriction. 1/11/23 - This is an original WW2 era production Luger magazine. These unique Prussian State Police belt buckles are most often found in gold but have also been observed, as noted above, in this type of silver and were used during the Weimar Era and for a few years into the Nazi era until they were replaced with the standard police buckle with large swastika. it was made without a loading tool pouch under the cover flap and the cover flap lacks a keeper for the holster body attached closing strap. Pictured together for comparison are a Police cleaning rod with a brass stopper and a navy cleaning rod. Note that the first photo posted by Ron has the same missing corner. These numbers were accountability numbers and were assigned to the policeman that carried the bayonet, as it remained the property of the issuing city. A 1925 dated report of the IMKK notes noncompliance and Each state (Pomerania, Prussia, Silesia, etc.) 4. No Longer Available. All of this is conjecture of course but it stands up to close inspection. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.G. These cut-back LP.08 holsters were used or at least modified/converted until 1928 when a new style of police holster was introduced without a holster spine attached cleaning rod sleeve, replacing it with a spare magazine pouch. The lack of relevant textbooks has often been put to the test. This is German WWI Naval crown m marked on the left receiver. If the width of the sight blade sliding base is too wide, it will bind in the muzzle protector collar slot. Pictured is the holster used with the 1950s Bahnpolizei FN 1922 pistol, separate and together with pistol. All P-08 Military Lugers. (non-P08) Pistols & Holsters. An inspection of other pre-WW1 Artillery holster/stocks in the collection shows yet another shape/style and size of cleaning rod pouch/sleeve affixed brass stud. As a result, the young police officers are faced with new tasks, which prove to be all the more difficult since the new police not only ward off the risks of political and economic struggles, but above all are supposed to be brought back to their actual previous activities. page 174, Fig. Der Mangel an einschlgigen Fachbchern ift oft betlagt worden. formed mostly from former servicemen. Open Fullscreen Lot 3320: DWM Blank Chamber Police Luger Rig with Prussian Unit Markings Mauser Blank Chamber 1933 Police Sneak Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig with Unit Markings, 1933 Dated Police Holster, and Extra Magazine Auction Date: December 11, 2022 Estimated Price: $ 2,000 - $ 3,000 Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping 1st model prototype. monogram markings appear on the 1st toggle link and the extractor is marked 'Geladen' (Loaded). Condition:--not specified . links[4]='http://www.theoldbrigade.co.uk'; A noted holster collector and expert states after examining pictures of the subject unidentified maker cut-back Artillery to Police holster that: The cleaning rod leather section added to the subject Artillery cleaning rod pouch or sleeve, came from an original sleeve. It is assumed that at the time of the conversion the holster was still brown. The conclusion being is that the modification, if indeed done for the reason described, was an ill-conceived, poorly thought out exercise that didnt work out, and that the special Police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, as stated by some Luger authors, was never intended to be carried in a cut-back Artillery to Police holster, with the subject holster being the sole published example so modified. 127; view 1, rear threaded section to be rotated clockwise until it is snug against the rear It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine and sear safety and an extremely rare circa 1930s Prussian State Schutzpolizei Police Nickel Silver or Maillechort belt buckle marked FREISTAAT PREUSSEN or Free State of Prussia. Regimental Marking [Revised Edition] by Jeff Noll, P.O. links[7]='https://www.marnamilitaria.com'; Pictured is a 1941 dated SCAMBACH & Co BERLIN brown leather police holster with an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp; view 1, view 2, view 3 and view 4. It might be that a few H.P. Goertz and D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA, 1997. While the vast majority of Landjgerei-marked Lugers are 29 DWMs as noted, there is a small percentage of dated Imperial-era Lugers with these markings. Clearly identified on the facing edge holster spine is a period artillery Luger cleaning rod pouch with brass stud and leather slit cover flap. It has all matching parts to include the side plate and take down lever which were stamped again with the same 2 digits as before but on the front of each part like would would see on a military marked pistol. 03-16-2021 11:59 AM by mrerick. influence of its police during the violence and disorder of the Weimar Kriminalpolizei (detective force), Assigned to Pictured is one such example with pattern likely dating from the Weimar period, identified as a German fire defense police belt buckle with a beautiful design emblem with the following inscription of: God to Honor ~ Neighbor to Defend. Polizei-Direction or Knigliche Polizei-Richtung=Royal Police-Direction, Der Kgl. Many combinations of eagles and numbers are noted. The front of the frame is correctly marked "GERMANY" over the full serial number, indicating export outside of Europe. J. pistols were rejected at the acceptance procedure it would explain that these were replaced with some pistols in the v block. 355. These markings were not used by the Nazis, thus we will see many Bayonets that are mismatched - which is not the case with the subject bayonet with original Weimar era matching accountability numbers S.B. Still and as illustrated in a very rare 1930s Walther advertising brochure titled: WALTHER POLIZEI-PISTOLEN PP / PPK und ihre Handhabung and an equally rare 1936 Walther PP/PPK 50 year commemorative flyer. Police Lugers is a work of research by Dwight Gruber and Edward Tinker that has taken innumerable hours over five years to tell the tale of the history and evolution of the police in Germany, specifically about their usage of the German P08 (Luger pistol). It is curious that the Hannover Police markings, S. Hn. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. All of the blank toggle guns are reported as Police guns. It didn't really have to exactly comply or match others issued to a military unit preparing for battle. With his permission, I have posted it below. (May indicate manufacture or rework.) Specifically, the reason, thought to be for the exact length of the cleaning rod shaft from the tip to the brass stop of 135mm when inserted through the 4-inch barrel installed muzzle protector, extending though the barrel, is meant to end flush to the chamber face. The second modification occurred in 1929 or possibly much later to comply with the new police holster requirements, by eliminating the cleaning rod sleeve/pouch and adding a spare magazine pouch. Nazi Lugers and their Accessories, by Jan C. Still, printed by It is fortunate that both books stayed together since 1921 and were acquired as a set. document.write(''). Estimated Price: $ 8,500 - $ 14,000 Price Realized: Outstanding World War II Nazi 1941 Dated Single Digit Serial Number 3y Mauser Banner Eagle/L Police Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol with Two Matching Magazines and 1941 Dated Police Holster Manufacturer: Mauser Model: P08 Type: Pistol Gauge: 9 mm Luger Barrel: 3 7/8 inch round Finish: blue 1644 of the 49th centuria within II command, Dusseldorf (S.D. Box 7184, the precincts held the long cleaning rods, similar to the navy P.04 pattern, onto which a brass travel stop was soldered, used in conjunction with the Mndungsschoner (muzzle protector), Verkehrsposten der Schutzpolizei, Berlin 1924. swiveling wooden barrel shaped handle, implying the police cleaning rods are a stand-alone tool. Pictured for comparison are examples 1 and 2. is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation. This was forbidden by the Treaty of stamping, there is enough room to the left of the defined and enhanced rectangular cartouche type enclosed S. H.133. The IMKK, Inter-Alliierte Militaer-Kontroll-Kommission (Inter-Allied Knowing that, and having the history of the 197 or Landjgerei Hannover with an Imperial crown/D and 197 stamped loading tool; view 1, view 2 and view 3. Specifically, the reason, thought to be for the exact length of the cleaning rod shaft from the tip to the brass stop of 135mm when inserted through the 4-inch barrel installed muzzle protector, extending though the barrel, is meant to end flush to the chamber face. is the only police instruction manual to mention the muzzle protector and its intended use with the cleaning rod and the 4mm sub caliber barrel insert. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Holster front view pictured with P.08. The missing upper left corner of the left grip is part of the mag safety modification. The post WW2 German Railway system apparently still required police protection as evidenced by the subject pictured FN Browning M1922 7.65 mm pistol, stamped, interestingly, Bahnpolizei (Railway Police) U.S. which by Igorak89 09 May 2016, 18:58, Post section slot then, 2) inserting Simply a guard at a warehouse. Pictured is an unknown maker German Police subcommissions and left Germany during January 1927. It is possible the second conversion was even later, around the start of WW2, and if true would Abtlg. II. Faded roman numeral ink stampings on the inside cover flap indicate Imperial army, possibly depot origins. Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. The bayonets are interesting, as most were produced during the 1920s during the Weimar period. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Gustav Reinhardt Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L. Sch.137. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 2 ----------------------------------------------------------. Pictured and described are Police Lugers in the collection, the first being 1908 commercial P.08 s/n 69859 shown with a period police holster. Opinion 2: I'm convinced that this is an Air Factory Werkschutz holster. Regimental markings on a 1916 P08 Luger - Arms and other weapons - The Great War (1914-1918) Forum. This was naturally discontinued with the dissolution of the 3 days Left MAUSER C96 RED 9 POLICE, SIMSON REWORK. Caliber 7.62mm - 6.5" barrel. Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. This interference issue varies from barrel to barrel, curiously, to both police and non-police P.08 9mm Lugers, depending on the width of the sight blade sliding base. They appear to fall into two categories: P08s that always were P08s and P08s that were formerly unmarked Landjgerei LP08s (many 1918 DWM LP08s) that were reworked by the PTV in 1929-30 and reissued as P08s to the Landjgerei and other police. Potsdam = Oak*, in June 1921. I am interested in the following symbols on the bottom side of the magazine, too. Many of its members (for example Ulle diese Reuregelungen sind bei der Bearbeitung der zweiten Uuslage berudschtigt worden und haben in einigen Ubschnitten umsangreiche Uenderungen notwendig gemacht. Pictured is another variation 1 style police S. B. S.B.S.I 1.7 - item 7 in the 1st Centuria within command I of the South FN Browning M1922 7.65 mm pistol, stamped, interestingly. As always, I'm not responsible for any inaccuracies in the data, just for This is notwithstanding the fact that there were obviously less Weimar Era Police officers than NCO Police personnel. Pictured is a 1941 dated OTTO SINDEL BERLIN police holster with an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp; view 1, links[2]='http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com'; Weapon no. $2,535.00 Compare ERFURT 1918 MILITARY - D13019 It was initially issued to the Imperial German Army during WW1, was reworked by the police, and was issued to the Nazi police force during WW2. Occasionally, one encounters a scaled-down, high quality Weimar era Police bayonet, which were private purchase by Police officers, of which these are considered to be "Dress" items. Stay in the know. Featured is a WW2 police style holster marked WaAJL16 on the rear between the bell loops along with a 4-digit 1108 believed to be a Police P.08 serial number. by Igorak89 06 May 2016, 12:14, Post This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other Landjgerei marked Police holsters. Im ubrigen hat aber das Bestreben vorgeherrscht, den Iert und Uusbau des Buches mglicht in seiner bisherigen Form zu warhen. links[5]='http://www.wwiidaggers.com'; Pictured is a brown leather example with regulation holster body attached holster body spare magazine pouch with up-strap and cover flap keeper slit and steel stud closure. Thanks for the help. When Himmler took over the police in 1936, it was decided to continue with the wear of these bayonets, however, they were reworked. Based on the year 1924 the holster is most likely brown. Since the Germans used the FN M1922 during WW2 it is curious that the 1950s U.S. is the only publication that is very specific as to its use, unfortunately, by Poot 06 May 2016, 07:54, Post The base forms of the unit marks for this police force were ammended in The new police, which is basically intended for the field service and uniformed, not only provides the general security service, but also for the maintenance of order, calm and cleanliness, for the regulation of touch, for the outer sanctuary of Sundays and holidays, the singing transport system and finally ensure that the principles of business sports are observed. As to what district the holster was first used is indeterminate, however, Berlin would be the most likely prominent district based on the external location of the Police marking. This 1920 commercial Luger was manufactured from a rebuilt WWI military pistol and sold through an Argentinian retailer, leaving it with both Buenos Aries and German markings. Polizei-Praesident Berlin=The Royal Police-President Berlin. Interestingly, this example used the expected regulation police holster up-strap and stud closure. It is a matter of common courtesy to credit the past authors/collectors that for the last three decades have discussed the 29 DWM Lugers in the s, t and u suffix serial range. 30. He should work on the internal corsage, promote public security, order and tranquility and, above all, give every citizen the opportunity to fulfill his moral duty to exercise his intellectual and physical strength to the full. The finish is very good and this model has a hold open latch and stock lug. 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