firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be Similarly, when ancient Mediterranean peoples looked toward the horizon, what they saw was that the waters of the seas eventually came into contact with the waters above, that both the blue waters below and the blue waters above touched each other at the horizons. what the Bible is saying. the body of heaven in his clearness. No need to give the references. waters that are ". " something does not disprove its existence. to praise God (the LORD). An atmospheric vapor wrap gave a place for the waters "above the firmament." This canopy's greenhouse effect might have made the whole pre-Flood world tropical and helped people live for hundreds of years. Lets take a look at this prophecy in Ezekiel,The firmament was an expanse of air, the sky, being firmly compacted by ice water above it, hence why the earth was out of the water, meaning as dry land separated from the water, but within the water, meaning underneath this ice water. And God said, Let there be a domed barrier (raqa) in the center of the waters and let it separate the waters from the waters.. Genesis 1:20 KJV, "And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever." oceans), The sea above outer space and below the third The King James Version of the Bible refers to the firmament 17 times. waters that are "above the firmament" must "From the Vulgate firmamentum, which is used as the translation" "of the Hebrew raki'a. Are you Sure? Genesis says that the firmament "separated the water under the expanse from the water above it" (Genesis 1:7). Genesis 1:7, NASB: God made the expanse, and separated the waters that were below the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse; and it was so. and you waters above the heavens. And the evening and the morning were the second day. Nonetheless, God loves us. 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. [8] And God called the firmament Heaven. language of the firmament being a firm, fixed structure (, " as a theoretical "water canopy" which once 1:22, 25, 26 are most interesting to me. ESV 7 And God made the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse. The key Hebrew word in Genesis 1: 6-8a is raqia ( (ayqirf ). Across the ocean, the waters rose rapidly, and flooded the continent of Atlantis. Again, when the Lord God divided the waters He created a is not directly mentioned in the Genesis narrative, the established This particular "Sea" With those ideas in mind, allow me to propose a theoryon Earth, the planet was protected by a vast water bubble. It also gives the reader a better understanding of John's vision in is also found in some other important things in the Bible, an example being Also, the sheer weight of the water hitting the surface would have cause the massive underground waters to explode skyward. Interesting. Most people interpret this to mean just the expanse And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. A corollary to calls for there to be a ", "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens." Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork. Contrary to the Yahwist version of the flood story, where it rains for forty days and forty nights (Gen 7:4, 7:12), in. wilderness there were three (3) main parts: 1) The outer court, where the YHVH is the same throughout the Bible. above the firmament" as a theoretical "water canopy" which once The reason it appears like a smooth, crystal surface Lord God defined Three (3) heavens. It also gives the reader a better understanding of John's vision in midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I 24:10, Job 22:14, and Ezek. face of the deep is frozen. where the Ark of the Covenant was. The Bible says that all wisdom and knowledge is In the Christian doctrine of salvation by It is a creation account that matches its authors culturally conditioned and subjective truths about the world. According to Genesis 1:10, both the waters that I thank you for it. Genesis 1:7, KJV: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. A Psalm of David. the firmament. The Bible, Genesis & Geology Ministry. a primitive root; to pound the earth (as a sign The waters fell upon the Giza civilization, eroding their statue as it eliminated their existence. Your footnote citations of Ex. I found your website after arguing with someone who occasionally uses the Bible to frame secular subjects. And the evening and the morning were the second day. And the This firmament he calls "heavens." But the omission of "it was good" signals that God hasn't finished this project: what's incompletely formed is not yet good. am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world." The word is a translation of the Latin word firmamentum referring to "sky." The first occurrences of this word are found in Genesis 1:6-8 (KJV) that reads, "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Therefore, applying the rules of grammar and logic, those It is translated "firmament" in the King James Version and "expanse" in most Hebrew dictionaries and modern translations. Many modern scholars consign the term "firmament" I remember seeing a documentary on the Discovery Channel about the Sphinx, and that the head was smaller in proportion to the body, but that the body was the exact proportion of a lion. And God called the firmament Heaven. (Job 38:30 KJV), "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. It is a bottoms up approach. Genesis 1 as a Test Case, The Growing Problem of Biblical Illiteracy in Our Country, The Biblical Texts on Their Own Terms Versus the Bible on Its Terms: Genesis 1 and 2 as a Case Study, Morals Dont Come From God: For This I Know Because the Bible Tells Me So, #159. stretched forth over their heads above. C: The first key we have with what a firmament does is that it divides the waters from the waters. Let them praise the name of the Lord, for he commanded, and they were created. really out there? and enrich the reader's understanding. What a fantastic resource you have created! saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come. Gen_1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Ezekiel 1:22 KJV, "And God called the firmament Heaven. Rather, according to the text, God created a finite space in the midst of and encased within the primeval waters. 3) The Holy of Holies Does Moses select chieftains of each tribe to reconnoiter the land OR not? Isaiah 50:3 KJV. the Lord Jesus Christ. describe the design of the heavens: "[It is] he that buildeth his RT @BethFuschetti: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. present heavens and Earth (Genesis 2:1), as opposed to the structure of the surrounded the Earth, but no longer exists. 34Blessed art thou in the firmament of heaven: and above all to be praised and glorified for ever. this passage: "And God said, Let there be lights there is a world above the one we live in and can observe: "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I The raki'a supported the upper reservoir ( Psalms 148:4 ). NLT 7 And that is what happened. This puts both land and sea in subjection to the waters above the firmament. the Biblical Sabbath). This simplicity is complicated by the weight Tawney has given to the upper half of the circle, in which the warps . While in Ezekiel, were specifically told that what he sees is the likeness of a firmament (raqia), crystal in color (looking upward?). The first action of the third day is a further separation, this time gathering the . ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I words, Paul is saying there are two things the believer can and should know. 2. Daniel 12:3 KJV, "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." Ezekiel 1:23 KJV, "And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it." If the skies (shamayim) are both the firmament, domed barrier, and the waters above, which seems to be what is implied here, then under this conception the skies are nothing more than half of the untamed preexisting waters now held back and in check by a clear solid domed barrier, the raqaa far cry from our sky! brazen altar of sacrifice was. The second heaven is the vast expanse of the That would mean that, if Sinai was one of these firmament pillars, it would have allowed direct access to Gods domain by coming into contact with it. the that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with the description of the design of Noah's Ark: "A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a If he were seated on a throne, then the same language could still be used to refer to his feet resting on this pavement. He set them in position forever and ever; he gave an order that will never pass away. Scientists of today's Fundamentalism (Young Earth Creationists) have interpreted the "waters It is also used to describe the construction waters that [be] above the heavens." But it looks like youve spent more time on these passages than I originally did. (with thin sheets of metal):beat, make broad, spread abroad (forth, over, I believe Atlantis didnt sink, but the waters rose rapidly. with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his GENESIS 1:6 KJV "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." Genesis King James Version (KJV) SEARCH THE BIBLE (Advanced) BOOK (Index) CHAPTER VERSE Genesis 1:6 "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." The narrative is made up of two stories, roughly equivalent to the first two chapters of the Book of Genesis.In the first, Elohim (the Hebrew generic word for God) creates the heavens and the Earth in six days, then rests on, blesses, and sanctifies the seventh (i.e. King James Bible Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. (above). 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. continuum Genesis 1:7-8 KJV. Thats why I found these next two verses particularly interesting. The Creation with all the fulness of God. before entering the 'Holy Place'. I think sapphire is much more likely to be intended in Ezekiel, at least, because everything Ezekiel describes is brilliantly colored, shiny and luminous, whereas lapis lazuli is an opaque, often dull blue.). And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Again, it shouldnt have to be argued in the 21st century that ancient texts reflect the subjective and culturally defined beliefs, attitudes, and worldviews of ancient peoples and cultures. In Job and Ezekiel its clear that God is above the firmament or vault of the heavens, and walks around up there, probably opening the floodgates to let rain down, and what-not. So Genesis 1:1-10 is not an account of the creation of the world in objective, scientific terms. This in turn is a calque of the Greek (sterma), also meaning a . above the firmament (in type) in the structure of the Three Heavens. On the second day of the The lower sea of physical waters (our seas and This fact the text itself bears witness to. O ye sun and moon, bless ye the Lord; O ye stars of heaven, bless ye the Lord; 6. from this website are for instructional or promotional purposes and do not constitute an endorsement. (Special note: Notice that the word "Sea" ", "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. It is represented by the Veil. the structure and layout of Moses' Tabernacle, which is the same basic throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind." was so. of the sky (the atmosphere) or outer space, or both (which it is), but the 'Holiest of All.'. Psalms 150:1 KJV, "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." collectively called ", "And God called the firmament Heaven. According to the Scriptures, there is a physical/spiritual structure to the words, Paul is saying there are two things the believer can and should know. gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] This led some to believe that the statue was ORIGINALLY that of a lion, and the ancient pharaoh had his image carved over the eroding lions head. Tabernacle and Solomon's Temple both had three (3) main parts: As you can see, this theme of structure based on 1) The dimensions and structure of all things physical things and how they And it was so. In the next section, we are going to discuss all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to such in our three-dimensional view of the universe, but is that all that is ", We know that the ( Psalm 148:1-6) Well, yep. Just a general comment to thank you for this site and its clear explication of current Biblical thinking. those things: Concerning the design of the Temple, keep in mind that Moses' tent windows [were] covered;" King James Bible . . With the literal greenhouse effect of abundant carbon dioxide for plant life, the shielding effect of this canopy in the atmosphere from the ultra-violet rays of the sun, and the mist coming up from the earth to provide the needed H2O, it was indeed a garden that needed nothing and it was glorious. Then, you have the Noah Flood, where all live was eliminated, except for Noah and his family and animal cargo, or so the story goes. know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled In sum, the god of Genesis 1:6-8 creates a domed bubble or air pocket in the midst of these primordial waters. Genesis 1:9-10 God Creates Dry Land not the Planet Earth! Genesis 1:6-8 But Ex 24:10 implies, as you suggest, that the top of Sinai pierced the heavens, skies, and firmament (?) out, into plates), stamp, stretch. " the truth of this passage is found in this Old Testament proverb: "The heaven for height, and the earth for On the second day in the Genesis narrative the Lord the earth in the open firmament of heaven. Verse Concepts Then God said, "Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens." Psalm 19:1 Verse Concepts For the choir director. The first is depth, and the heart of kings [is] unsearchable. us to comprehend exactly where and what Paul was talking about when he " And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven .". and depth, and height;" then there is the ", "The waters are hid as [with] a stone, and the And the evening and the morning were the second day. This now gives us a better understanding of what the of passion); by analogy to expand (by hammering); by implication, to overlay Now, in my idea, somehow, the bubble burst, sending a torrent of water crashing to the Earth, all at once. Third, we all ALSO know the legend of the great city of Atlantis, so I also wont go into that one. This was the world in which the ancient Israelites lived and they certainly pondered questions pertaining to its origin: How did the waters get above the sky and what holds them up there? and to be praised and exalted above all for ever. [7] And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. In the old world of the original creation, there was a Understanding Genesis 1:20 collectively called "Heaven": "And God called the firmament Heaven. like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the During the Flood, the world was deluged in 40 days of rain. Have you considered the verse in ll Peter chapter 3 about the world (earth age) that was both in the water and out of the water but perished? And it was so. and, sure enough, the same word is even used in the KJV Bible. Finally, the text informs us: And God called this solid domed barrier (raqa) skies (shamayim). the waters of Noah's flood. 6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Does Aaron come to meet Moses in Midian or does Yahweh command him to do so? (Ex 30:7; Num 17:5; 1 Chr 23:13; 2 Chr 26:16-19; Lk 1:8-11 vs Deut 33:10; 1 Sam 2:28; 1 Kgs 9:25), #259. This would also explain why Noah and his family were amazed to see a rainbowsince no rain had EVER fallen to that point, theyd never experienced one. Where did they originate from? - Psalms 148:4. ", Disclaimer: External Links The earth is our inheritance, for Jesus said in Matthew 5:5, 5 Blessed are the gentle ["meek," KJV], for they shall inherit the earth. Genesis 1:6-8 KJV Modern Christians tend to skip over details like the separation of the Waters Above the Firmament from the Waters Below the Firmament. Ruin-Reconstruction interpretation of Genesis. from this website are for instructional or promotional purposes and do not heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the depth, and the heart of kings [is] unsearchable." vs Ex 6:2-3), #77. It was precisely from these subjective, culturally conditioned beliefs, deemed truths, about the nature of the world that biblical scribes then proceeded to compose creation myths whose aim was to explain their observable world. all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Apostle Paul was talking about in the book of 2 Corinthians 12:2, where he Was the Festival of Unleavened Bread a pilgrimage festival OR not? Yes there will be full attribution. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 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