Robin Vann and Unknown 14 year old in 1809 Vann less. I had on my old clothes for the wedding, and I ain't had any good clothes since I was a little slave girl. There was a bugler and someone callled the dances. Again the Indian command system lost the Chickamauga their last chance to carry their colors to the Clinch River. But later on I got a freedman's allotment up in dat part close to Coffeyville, and I lived in Coffeyville a while but I didn't like it in Kansas. They was Cherokee Indians. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. John Joseph Vann B: 1730 Scotland, M: Wai-Li Princess of Cherokee - 1763,D: 1780 Tennessee, shot by son James (Chief Crazy James) John Vann. I sure did love her. I went to see dem lots of times and they was always glad to see me. Brother of Ca-lieu-cah Mary Vann Lord yes, su-er. Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. There wasn't nothing left. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. Bahnen der Stadt Monheim GmbH. The young, single girls lived with the old folks in another big long house. They was Cherokee Indians. We made money and kept it in a sack. Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. He used to take us to where Hyde Park is and we'd all go fishin'. The French Revolution broke out in 1789, and its effects reverberated throughout much of Europe for many decades. Joseph H. Vann, (11 February 1798 - 23 October 1844). He would sing for us, and I'd like to hear them old songs again! In the summer I wear them on Sunday, too. One day young Master come to the cabins and say we all free and cant stay there lessn we want to go on working for him just like wed been, for our feed and clothes. Don't know where the other one lived. When the war broke out, lots of Indians mustered up and went out of the territory. You know just what day you have to be back too. Chief Crazy James Vann James Clement Vann) Vann, Ii, <<Private>> Vann, Ii. One night a runaway negro come across form Texas and he had de blood hounds after him. My mammy was a Crossland Negro before she come to belong to Master Joe and marry my pappy, and I think she come wid old Mistress and belong to her. . I never did have much of a job, jest tending de calves mostly. Everybody had a good time. Do you know what I am going to do? Lord no, he didn't. Although he was born after slavery had ended, Nave's remembrances of what his father had told him about slavery days include some interesting details. He passed away on 21 Feb 1809 in Shot at Buffington Tavern, GA, USA. Marr. Thank you for visiting chief joseph vann family tree page. Seneca Chism was my father. The impressive house reportedly stood on a plantation of nearly 600 acres which was tended by some 400 black slaves "Rich Joe" Vann owned. I got a pass and went to see dem sometimes, and dey was both treated mighty fine. Source: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm [3] Lucy Walker steamboat disaster, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster [1]. In de second year of de War he sold my mammy and my aunt dat was Uncle Joe's wife and my two brothers and my little sister. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. I always pick a whole passel of muscadines for old Master and he make up sour wine, and dat helps out when we git the bowel complaint from eating dat fresh pork. We went on a place in de Red River Bottoms close to Shawneetown and not far from de place where all de wagons crossed over to go into Texas. Rich Joe Vann died in Oct. 1844 when the boiler exploded on his steamboat, the "Lucy Walker" during a race with another vessel near New Albany, Ind. They got over in the Creak country and stood off the Cherokee officers that went to git them, but pretty soon they give up and come home. Mistress try to get de man to tell her who de negro belong to so she can buy him, but de man say he can't sell him and he take him on back to Texas wid a chain around his two ankles. I never forget when they sold off some more negroes at de same time, too and put dem all in a pen for de trader to come and look at. I had two brothers, Silas and George, dat belong to Mr. George Holt in Webber's falls town. Of course, all slaves were officially freed during the Civil War. Lots of soldiers around all the time though. Mammy say they was lots of excitement on old Master's place and all the negroes mighty scared, but he didn't sell my pappy off. Joseph married Wah Wli Vann (born Otterlifter). We had out time to go to bed and our time to get up in the morning. Lord, Yes! Yes Sa. Marster Jim and Missus Jennie wouoldn't let his house slaves to with no common dress out. Dat was de time dat was the hardest and everything was dark and confusion. Jennie was born on December 23 1804, in Georgia, USA. I dunno her other name. We had to get up early and comb our hair first thing. Joseph married Jennie Vann (born Doublehead) on date. Dey would come in de night and hamstring de horses and maybe set fire to de barn, and two of em named Joab Scarrel, and Tom Starr killed my pappy one night just before the War broke out. I sure did love her. I wore loom cloth clothes, dyed in copperas what the old Negro women and the old Cherokee women made. The master had a bell to ring every morning at four o'clock for the folks to turn out. 5, Special Issue: American Culture and the American Frontier (Winter, 1981), pp. Old Master Joe was a big man in the Cherokees, I hear, and was good to his Negroes before I was born. They had a big big plantation down by the river and they was rich. A town was laid out on his Hamilton Country farm which was called, Vanntown. He was married, but that din't make no difference he courted her anyhow. And we learned some things about religion from an old colored preacher named Tom Vann. Snow on the ground and the water was muddy and all full of pieces of ice. If somebody bad sick he git de doctor right quick, and he don't let no negroes mess around wid no poultices and teas and sech things, like cupping-horns neither! Joseph and his sister Mary were children of James Vann and Nannie Brown, both mixed-blood Cherokees. He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. They didn't go away, they stayed, but they tell us colored folks to go if we wanted to. Master Jim and Missus Jennie was good to their slaves. Yes Lord Yes. Born in Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States on 11 Feb 1765 to John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann and WahLi Wa-Wli aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan. We went down to the river for baptizings. They'd cut brush saplings, walk out into the stream ahead of the pen and chase the fish down to the riffle where they'd pick em up. They put white cloths on the shelves and laid the good on it. 467-91. He had to work on the boat, though, and never got to come home but once in a long while. Everybody had a good time on old Jim Vann's plantation. He owned 110 slaves and on his plantation there were thirty-five houses, a mill and a ferry boat. Dey would come up in a bunch of about nine men on horses and look at all our passes, and if a negro didn't have no pass dey wore him out good and made him go home. Cherokee tribes are native to the North American continent. Malone, Henry Thompson, Cherokees of the Old South: A People in Transition, University of Georgia Press, (1956), ISBN 0670034207. After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. Everybody had plenty to eat and plenty to throw away. Old Mistress had a good cookin stove, but most Cherokees had only a big fireplace and pot hooks. The low class work in the fields. Joe had two wives, one was named Missus Jennie. They had one son: Isaac Vann. We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. The grandson reported that the Vann Family lived in that house until "the War," when some 3,000 federal troops descended upon Webbers Falls. Someone call our names and everybody get a present. He never come until the next day, so dey had to sleep in dat pen in a pile like hogs. Old mistress was small and mighty pretty too, and she was only half Cherokee. When they gave a party in the big house, everything was fine. Tall and slim and handsome. During the hearing, former Governor Joseph Brown warned Slaton, "In all frankness, if Your Excellency wishes to invoke lynch law in Georgia and destroy trial by jury, the way to do it is by retrying this case and reversing all the courts."[154][155][n 16][n 17] According to Tom Watson's biographer, C. Vann Woodward, "While the hearings of the . There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. Some niggers say my pappy kept hollering, Rum it to the bank! The Vanns were a prolific family who reused many names, so later in life he was referred to as "Rich Joe." He was one of eight children born to his father's nine wives. Coming out of the army for the last time, Pappa took all the family and moved to Fort Scott, Kansas, but I guess he feel more at home wid the Indians for pretty soon we all move back, this time to a farm near Fort Gibson. Old Master Joe had a big steam boat he called the Lucy Walker, and he run it up and down the Arkansas and the Mississippi and the Ohio river, old Mistress say. Next came the carpenters, yard men, blacksmiths, race-horse men, steamboat men and like that. Hams cakes, pies, dresses, beads, everything. Actually, the Assistant Principal Chief was Joseph "Tenulte" Vann, son of Avery Vann and probably a cousin of "Rich Joe" Vann. Correction Note: The preceding comments by the interviewer incorrectly depicts the relationship between the family members. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. Mammy had the wagon and two oxen and we worked a good size patch there until she died, and then I git married to Cal Robertson to have somebody to take care of me. He had apparently been attending the horse races at Louisville, KY. Vann, Joseph H., Cherokee Rose: On Rivers of Golden Tears, 1st Books Library (2001), ISBN 0-75965-139-6. He courted a girl named Sally. The preacher took his candidate into the water. Then the preacher put you under water three times. There'd be a whole wagon-load of things come and be put on the tree. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Fall.s Don't know where the other one lived. Black Hock was awful attached to the kitchen. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Falls. Every morning the slaves would run to the commissary and get what they wanted for that day. The only song I remember from the soldiers was" "Hang Jeff Davis to a Sour Apple Tree," and I remember that because they said he used to be at Fort Gibson one time. In one month you have to get back. Old Master tell me I was borned in November 1852, at de old home place about five miles east of Webbers Falls, mebbe kind of northeast, not far from de east bank of de Illinois River. She had belonged to Joe Hildebrand and he was kin to old Steve Hildebrand dat owned de mill on Flint Creek up in de Going Snake District. He had run off after he was sold and joined de North army and discharged at Fort Scoot in Kansas, and he said lots of freedmen was living close to each other up by Coffeyville in the Coo-ee-scoo-wee District. Dey was both raised round Webber's Falls somewhere. Built circa 1805 by Chief James Vann and his son Joseph, the home is a remarkable reminder of an interesting chapter in Georgia's past. One day young Master come to the cabins and say we all free and cant' stay there lessn we want to go on working for him just like we'd been for our feed, an clothes. I dont know, but that was before my time. When crop was laid by de slaves jest work round at dis and dat and keep tol'able busy. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. She dye with copperas and walnut and wild indigo and things like dat and made pretty cloth. Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. I remember Chief John Ross. Nov 1773 Joseph Vann from SC received 500 acres in Wilkes County, Georgia listing a wife, three sons and four daughters ages 7-16. I been a good Christian ever since I was baptised, but I keep a little charm here on my neck anyways, to keep me from having the nose bleed. One year later my sister Phyllis was born on the same place and we been together pretty much of the time ever since, and I reckon dere's only one thing that could separate us slave born children. Yes, Lord Yes. I never did see my daddy excepting when I was a baby and I only know what my mammy told me about him. Seem like it take a powerful lot of fighting to rid the country of them Rebs. Everybody had plenty to eat and plenty to throw away. The slave cabins was in a row, and we lived in one of them. You know just what day you have to be back too. Her master was white, but he had married into de Nation and so she got a freedmen's allotment too. Women came in satin dresses, all dressd up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. The place was all woods, and the Cherokees and the soldiers all come down to see the baptizing. In the pre-dawn hours of November 15, 1842, the Negroes locked their still-sleeping masters and overseers in their homes. townhomes for rent in pg county. His pappy was old Captain "Rich Joe" Vann, and he had been dead ever since long before de War.
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